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Hummer Type X starter

Post by Paul Agaliotis » Thu Feb 21, 2008 09:44

I'm looking for some information or even a photo of a Hummer Type X mechanical starter.
I was thinking of starting another "fools errand" in reproduction of the item. I've never seen one and would like any information.
What I have found is that Mechanical Products Company produced this some time in the 1940's. Mr. Maule was involved early in the production stages.
If any of the NAA members has a lead let me know.
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Post by nowlen » Thu Feb 21, 2008 11:44

what was it used on? how does it work ? only you would know of something this strange !bernie

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Post by joea » Thu Feb 21, 2008 12:04

nowlen wrote:what was it used on? how does it work ? only you would know of something this strange !bernie
Agreed and only Paul would try to reproduce it. Problem is that I bet he is able to make one and probably much better than the original! :)

Sounds interesting, pls tell us more.

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Post by Paul Agaliotis » Thu Feb 21, 2008 14:10

The starter is listed in the TCDS for the A Series Continental. I started asking the Senior Staff at the local airfields and couldn't find much information. We generally tailed off into the McDowell starter conversation.
I guess I'm curious at this point as to how it worked and if it can be re-produced.
A hand operated starter could be used on many of the little airplanes. The first thing most want to do is add a starter. The McDowell is a good unit but a complete starter would be complicated and expensive to build.
Bernie,
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Post by Nathan K. Hammond » Thu Feb 21, 2008 21:58

Couple of guys on the SuperCub.org site where asking about the Hummer starter...

http://www.supercub.org/phpBB2/viewtopi ... ght=hummer

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Post by B PANCAKE » Thu Feb 21, 2008 23:11

I have a hummer starter for a continental A65-9 engine. You cannot put a starter on just any engine,the engine crankcase must be machine to mount the starter.I will take some pictures of the starter and post them on the Aeronca web in a few days. If you have any questions about the starter call on the telly Ph # 304-788-1974 and we will talk about starter. They are a pain in the butt.

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Post by Paul Agaliotis » Fri Feb 22, 2008 09:09

Thanks Bill,
I was hoping it was an external style starter.

I hope everyone on this site understands the importance of the knowledge base we have here. Most of this information is 60 years old and it takes people,like Bill, to have the vision to capture and share it.
Hope to see you in Middletown.
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Post by joea » Fri Feb 22, 2008 16:30

Paul Agaliotis wrote: I hope everyone on this site understands the importance of the knowledge base we have here. Most of this information is 60 years old and it takes people,like Bill, to have the vision to capture and share it.

Hope to see you in Middletown.
Paul
Totally agree and we are lucky to have people like Bill and others who can pass information along that we would not learn otherwise.

My concern is that while there are a lot of people on this forum with very good experience, there are as well a lot of Aeronca owners and mechanics who are not on the forum. These people could as well be sharing information and helping everyone. In the world of dope and fabric, its almost a dying art, and A&P mechanics are not being taught how to work with fabric any longer. Sad but a sign of the times.

If anyone knows of someone who could contribute, please give them a heads up and try to get them to join us here. The information on this forum is invaluable but could always be better with more people contributing to the mix.

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Re: Hummer Type X starter

Post by jepropst » Fri May 04, 2012 18:14

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A few days ago I visited Bill Pancake's shop and took a lot of photos of a Hummer starter and a Continental a65-9 engine and accessory case. My plans are to create a photo article for the Aeronca Museum. Attached is one of the photos showing the Hummer starter on the A65-9 accessory case. Both the crankcase and accessory case are significantly different than the A65-8 engine.
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Re: Hummer Type X starter

Post by joea » Sun May 27, 2012 21:05

John,

How does that puppy work? Pulling on it like the McDowell?

Thx,

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Post by jepropst » Mon May 28, 2012 06:07

Maybe we can get Bill to bring it to Middletown. The cable coming out of the unit connects to a binge cord that runs the length of the aircraft under the floor. There is a crank that extends from the Hummer starter through the fuel tank to the dash. The pilot "winches" the cable into the unit, stretching the binge cord. Once the cord is stretched, the pilot pushes the end of the crank, which engages the starter to the engine. A lead weight was added to the tail post to help balance the center of gravity. Other than weighing quite a bit, requiring a special engine crankcase and special accessory case, special crankshaft gear and special magneto gear, it was a pretty good idea!
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Post by joea » Mon May 28, 2012 09:23

John,

Sounds like Rube Goldberg at his finest!

Thx,

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Post by jepropst » Thu May 31, 2012 05:54

Bill is bringing the Hummer to Middletown!
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